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Friday, October 18, 2013
Should Pieter have married Griet, even though she never loved him?
Oh, such a strange relationship......the one between Griet and Pieter. Does Griet ever love him, truly? Why does he stick with her? Would you have been as patient as Griet?
I don't think he should have because he is only hurting himself because she doesn't love him as much as he loves her and in stead of moving on he is stuck there
No Im not patient at all and i would not be able to wait. If someone likes me they should straight up tell me and not keep it for long inside them. Also I think that he shouldnt have married her because she doesnt like him and they arnt made for eachother
I don't think Pieter should have married Griet because she did't love him yet. I think he should have given her more time to develop feelings for him. At the beginning I don't think Griet loves him, but I think she starts to love him. She loves him enough to marry him and have children with him. I think Pieter sticks with Griet because he thinks she is pretty and he can impress people (typical boys). I don't know if I could have been as patient as Griet because if someone was trying to get me to like them or even love them when I don't, it would get annoying. On the other hand I think I would be flattered if someone liked me that mush but it would get annoying.
I don't think that Pieter understood that Griet never loved him. If anyone's, it was Griet's fault for marrying Pieter. Pieter thought that Griet loved him, but just wouldn't do anything about it because of how modest she was.
I think Pieter should have married griet because even if she didn't love him then she would learn to love him eventually and i think it was best for her because he can provide her food and shelter.
I think they shouldn't have gotten married. I don't think either of them loved each other. I think Pieter was more curious about Griet then actually loving her. She was very quiet and very rarely showed emotion. I think Pieter originally was interested in her because of the mystery and the beauty she had in her possession. Also, at that time, you were expected to marry people at a young age, and Pieter was desperate for an adventure and a wife. I think the only reason Griet was patient was because she doesn't like change. At the beginning of the book, Griet was upset to start working. I feel like it was more the concept of change, then the work. Griet doesn't like change, and she didn't want any more. She is eventually, almost forced, to from her leaving her job at the Vermeers because her family needs the money. I think I would have been patient, after all, this is deciding the rest of your life. This is a serious topic, not just some random guy. This is the rest of your life! I would have definitely been patient.
Griet did love him but it wasn't very strong. She knew it was be smart and the best choice if she married Pieter. He really loved and cared for her, also he had a job and could provide for her and her family. But if you think of it as a sappy fall-in-love situation she may have fell for Vermeer. But would he choose her over his wife? I don't really know...
I think it was the best choice for the two of them to get married. Griet's family benefits from it greatly so they can have meat to eat. Also, it gives Griet a new job. I believe that Griet did love Pieter, but she married him more for her family's benefit.
I think that Pieter should of married Griet because even though she didn't love him as much as he loved her it was the best for both of them. It helped Griet for her family, also she got to work at the shop with him sometimes. Also it helped Pieter by giving him someone to love. Since everything worked out at the end with them two it was the best decision to marry her before she was ready. She got warnings of the plague, and updates on her family through him, he gave her a lot to look forward to.
The relationship between Griet and Pieter was a very interesting relationship. At the time Griet and Pieter met, Griet was going through a very emotional stage. I believe Griet loved him, but i also think she was looking for anyone to love. I think she almost used him or "played" him but eventually I think she grew to love him with almost an appreciation. I think he stayed with her because he saw that she hungered for love and somebody to have and became almost attached with her life. I personally would have done what i could have for her but i wouldnt of been as patient as he was.
I think Griet never truly loved Pieter, I think she tricked herself into liking him, because she was going through something emotional and she needed someone that she knew would always be there for her no matter what. I would've helped her to the best of my ability but being patient would be a very difficult but let's say I was Pieter then I would have all the patience in the world because I (Pieter) loved her. So to answer the question I don't believe Griet ever truly loves Pieter. ~ Arizona
It was the best for both of them. They worked out okay in the end anyways. I think, even though Griet would never admit it, she was in love with Pieter. She was going through some emotional things, and somewhat in a way, Pieter helped her through that!
Even though Griet never loved Pieter, I believe their marriage was for the best. I think this was good because Pieter helped provide for Griet's family in a time of need. He helped by giving them meet, and helped by being there for the. He was a good friend to the family.He was also there for Griet, providing her support, and helping her by telling her news when she couldn't interact with her family. Even though Griet never truly loved Pieter, there relationship was worth it overall.
Even though Greit never loved Pieter, it was best for both of them. This was because Pieter did love Greit, but Greit needed to be taken away from Vermeer's house. Pieter took care of both his family and Greit's family by providing food, which was something that her father and mother could not do. Pieter was always there for Greit, even when her family was isolated by the plague. He supported her when her sister died and came to church to meet her family. So I believe that he truly love Greit, but in Greits best interest by going through with this marriage.
To be honest, if I were Pieter, I would have given up on Griet the second she ran back in the Vermeer house (when he proposed). Though if you truly love someone you will be patient with them, which is what Pieter was. Ever since they first met in the Meat Hall, Pieter couldn't stop talking to Griet and finding out about her. If Pieter knew that Griet was in love with Vermeer I think he shouldn't have asked to marry her. Since he did not know, I believe it's best that he did propose to Griet. He found out for her about the plague, Agnes' death, and supplied her with food for her parents. I do think that Griet does love Pieter but not in the beginning of their relationship. It took her time to get to know Pieter as well as let of her 'never going to happen' relationship with Vermeer. It took her time to discover his only love is his artwork. Griet knew deep down that it was best for her and her parents if she married Pieter. Plus I also think Griet knew she could never truly be apart of the Vermeer household anyway. I could not have been as patient as Griet was because I'm a very impatient person. I would have came out and told Pieter my feelings early on, instead of waiting to see if someone else might love me back.
Life back then was a lot different then it is today. Today we actually care about relationships and how they are. In Griets time, I think it was more about benefiting from each other. Griets family needs the meat. It's in their best interest to get married.
I think that Griet did something for the better but marrying Pieter. I think that Pieter had stronger feelings then Griet did but I don't think that Griet didn't completely love him. Pieter sticks up for her because he wants Griet to feel better and wants her to feel different when she is with Pieter. Yes, I would have because back in that time people got married the next day, she told Pieter that she didn't want to get married young so eh waited until she was sixteen or seventeen
I don't think they should have married because Griet doesn't truly love him. In fact, Griet explores other options she has to pick from besides marrying Pieter, but she didn't. She still felt the need to support her parents, and decided that marrying a man she didn't love and taking up a profession she thought was disgustingly unsanitary was the best way to help them. Personally, I think she should have gone off in search of her brother, but maybe she knows something I don't.
I believe Griet should have married Pieter even though she didn't love him for many reasons. The first one being that Pieter certainly loved her and that is very important. Also Griet needed to help support her family and the best way to do that was to find someone (Pieter) that would take care of all of them. Pieter had good pay and would whole-heartedly look after them. If Griet would have stayed and tried to have a relationship with Vermeer she would put herself and her family in more jeopardy then they already are. All in all sometimes to take care of those we love we have to sacrifice certain things and this is what Griet should have done and did do.
I don't think he should have because he is only hurting himself because she doesn't love him as much as he loves her and in stead of moving on he is stuck there
ReplyDeleteI don't think he should have. If someone doesn't love you as much as you love them, they aren't worth it. It will only make him sad over the years.
ReplyDeleteNo Im not patient at all and i would not be able to wait. If someone likes me they should straight up tell me and not keep it for long inside them. Also I think that he shouldnt have married her because she doesnt like him and they arnt made for eachother
ReplyDeleteI don't think Pieter should have married Griet because she did't love him yet. I think he should have given her more time to develop feelings for him. At the beginning I don't think Griet loves him, but I think she starts to love him. She loves him enough to marry him and have children with him. I think Pieter sticks with Griet because he thinks she is pretty and he can impress people (typical boys). I don't know if I could have been as patient as Griet because if someone was trying to get me to like them or even love them when I don't, it would get annoying. On the other hand I think I would be flattered if someone liked me that mush but it would get annoying.
ReplyDeleteI don't think that Pieter understood that Griet never loved him. If anyone's, it was Griet's fault for marrying Pieter. Pieter thought that Griet loved him, but just wouldn't do anything about it because of how modest she was.
ReplyDeleteI think Pieter should have married griet because even if she didn't love him then she would learn to love him eventually and i think it was best for her because he can provide her food and shelter.
ReplyDeleteI think they shouldn't have gotten married. I don't think either of them loved each other. I think Pieter was more curious about Griet then actually loving her. She was very quiet and very rarely showed emotion. I think Pieter originally was interested in her because of the mystery and the beauty she had in her possession. Also, at that time, you were expected to marry people at a young age, and Pieter was desperate for an adventure and a wife. I think the only reason Griet was patient was because she doesn't like change. At the beginning of the book, Griet was upset to start working. I feel like it was more the concept of change, then the work. Griet doesn't like change, and she didn't want any more. She is eventually, almost forced, to from her leaving her job at the Vermeers because her family needs the money. I think I would have been patient, after all, this is deciding the rest of your life. This is a serious topic, not just some random guy. This is the rest of your life! I would have definitely been patient.
ReplyDeleteGriet did love him but it wasn't very strong. She knew it was be smart and the best choice if she married Pieter. He really loved and cared for her, also he had a job and could provide for her and her family. But if you think of it as a sappy fall-in-love situation she may have fell for Vermeer. But would he choose her over his wife?
ReplyDeleteI don't really know...
I think it was the best choice for the two of them to get married. Griet's family benefits from it greatly so they can have meat to eat. Also, it gives Griet a new job. I believe that Griet did love Pieter, but she married him more for her family's benefit.
ReplyDeleteI think that Pieter should of married Griet because even though she didn't love him as much as he loved her it was the best for both of them. It helped Griet for her family, also she got to work at the shop with him sometimes. Also it helped Pieter by giving him someone to love. Since everything worked out at the end with them two it was the best decision to marry her before she was ready. She got warnings of the plague, and updates on her family through him, he gave her a lot to look forward to.
ReplyDeleteThe relationship between Griet and Pieter was a very interesting relationship. At the time Griet and Pieter met, Griet was going through a very emotional stage. I believe Griet loved him, but i also think she was looking for anyone to love. I think she almost used him or "played" him but eventually I think she grew to love him with almost an appreciation. I think he stayed with her because he saw that she hungered for love and somebody to have and became almost attached with her life. I personally would have done what i could have for her but i wouldnt of been as patient as he was.
ReplyDeleteI think Griet never truly loved Pieter, I think she tricked herself into liking him, because she was going through something emotional and she needed someone that she knew would always be there for her no matter what. I would've helped her to the best of my ability but being patient would be a very difficult but let's say I was Pieter then I would have all the patience in the world because I (Pieter) loved her. So to answer the question I don't believe Griet ever truly loves Pieter. ~ Arizona
ReplyDeleteIt was the best for both of them. They worked out okay in the end anyways. I think, even though Griet would never admit it, she was in love with Pieter. She was going through some emotional things, and somewhat in a way, Pieter helped her through that!
ReplyDeleteEven though Griet never loved Pieter, I believe their marriage was for the best. I think this was good because Pieter helped provide for Griet's family in a time of need. He helped by giving them meet, and helped by being there for the. He was a good friend to the family.He was also there for Griet, providing her support, and helping her by telling her news when she couldn't interact with her family. Even though Griet never truly loved Pieter, there relationship was worth it overall.
ReplyDeleteEven though Greit never loved Pieter, it was best for both of them. This was because Pieter did love Greit, but Greit needed to be taken away from Vermeer's house. Pieter took care of both his family and Greit's family by providing food, which was something that her father and mother could not do. Pieter was always there for Greit, even when her family was isolated by the plague. He supported her when her sister died and came to church to meet her family. So I believe that he truly love Greit, but in Greits best interest by going through with this marriage.
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, if I were Pieter, I would have given up on Griet the second she ran back in the Vermeer house (when he proposed). Though if you truly love someone you will be patient with them, which is what Pieter was. Ever since they first met in the Meat Hall, Pieter couldn't stop talking to Griet and finding out about her. If Pieter knew that Griet was in love with Vermeer I think he shouldn't have asked to marry her. Since he did not know, I believe it's best that he did propose to Griet. He found out for her about the plague, Agnes' death, and supplied her with food for her parents. I do think that Griet does love Pieter but not in the beginning of their relationship. It took her time to get to know Pieter as well as let of her 'never going to happen' relationship with Vermeer. It took her time to discover his only love is his artwork. Griet knew deep down that it was best for her and her parents if she married Pieter. Plus I also think Griet knew she could never truly be apart of the Vermeer household anyway. I could not have been as patient as Griet was because I'm a very impatient person. I would have came out and told Pieter my feelings early on, instead of waiting to see if someone else might love me back.
ReplyDeleteLife back then was a lot different then it is today. Today we actually care about relationships and how they are. In Griets time, I think it was more about benefiting from each other. Griets family needs the meat. It's in their best interest to get married.
ReplyDeleteI think that Griet did something for the better but marrying Pieter. I think that Pieter had stronger feelings then Griet did but I don't think that Griet didn't completely love him. Pieter sticks up for her because he wants Griet to feel better and wants her to feel different when she is with Pieter. Yes, I would have because back in that time people got married the next day, she told Pieter that she didn't want to get married young so eh waited until she was sixteen or seventeen
ReplyDeleteI don't think they should have married because Griet doesn't truly love him. In fact, Griet explores other options she has to pick from besides marrying Pieter, but she didn't. She still felt the need to support her parents, and decided that marrying a man she didn't love and taking up a profession she thought was disgustingly unsanitary was the best way to help them. Personally, I think she should have gone off in search of her brother, but maybe she knows something I don't.
ReplyDeleteI believe Griet should have married Pieter even though she didn't love him for many reasons. The first one being that Pieter certainly loved her and that is very important. Also Griet needed to help support her family and the best way to do that was to find someone (Pieter) that would take care of all of them. Pieter had good pay and would whole-heartedly look after them. If Griet would have stayed and tried to have a relationship with Vermeer she would put herself and her family in more jeopardy then they already are. All in all sometimes to take care of those we love we have to sacrifice certain things and this is what Griet should have done and did do.
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